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In Conversation… with Frank Schaeffer • Bonus Episode • John Pavlovitz

Frank Schaeffer In Conversation with John Pavlovitz, exploring the themes of his new book, Worth Fighting For: Finding Courage and Compassion When Cruelty Is Trending.


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John Pavlovitz is a writer, pastor, and activist from Wake Forest, North Carolina.

A 25-year veteran in the trenches of local church ministry, John is committed to equality, diversity, and justice—both inside and outside faith communities. When not actively working for a more compassionate planet, John enjoys spending time with his family, exercising, cooking, and having time in nature. He is the author of If God Is Love, Don’t Be a JerkA Bigger TableHope and Other SuperpowersLowRise, and Stuff That Needs to Be Said.